Welcome Roberto to the forum. What a very sad story for your father in law. You did not give his age at the time of the bladder cancer diagnosis. I was 50 when I received the same horrible news and 75% of my bladder was covered in tumors. I did not require a transfusion and I have been cancer free for 15 years.
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Hello everybody!
by roberto avon inhello everybody,i've been lurking for a while and since i really adore reading the biggest part of the posts, especially this italian ( american) guy about his experiences at bethel in the 70's, i feel a little bit guilty for not participating with my contribute.
i am really so sorry for the people that are suffering because of the wts.my story is a " happy ending " story, i married a jw almost 30 years ago and i am here to tell that we are still very happy.
she is very liberal and our 3 kids are " normal ".
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Question: refuse, or limit to collaborate with elder inquiry?
by prologos inshould a teen, a child of a believing mother, cooperate in the fact-gathering of the elders into the waywardness (not sex related, hopefully) of some local teenagers?
what scenarios can you see playing out?
all teens to clam up?
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rebelfighter
Never a JW but trained to work with a youth group of young ladies between the ages of 10 and 20. We are Certified Adult Volunteers, we are trained to recognize all forms of emotional, physical and sexual abuse if we suspect it is coming from the home or is serious we immediately call authorities. If we suspect which far to often now a days we have parents who are not involved in their children's lives we will sit down with the parent and gently suggest that you might keep a closer eye on your child as we suspect she maybe getting involved in whatever behavior that maybe leading her down a wrong path. From what I have read on this forum that is far from the mission of any Elder body. We as adult leaders are there to guide these young ladies through good times as well as bad times AND young ladies have a lot of melt downs during their teen years and need that shoulder to cry on. And they can cry over the craziest things but that is part of growing up but we are there for them. Tell me that an Elder has that kind of patience, they just want to take action. -
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jw family loves to ask df'd ones for money!
by Ghiagirl inwell it finally happened!
we have been waiting about a year for this, my dfd husbands family asked us for money.
even though his own father hasn't met our 8 month old son.
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Ghiagirl,
The sad thing is this behavior actually happens in families outside of the cult as well. No one in my family was in the cult and there were only three of us my mother and a sister. I was considered a part of the family ONLY when I was writing someone checks otherwise all Hell was the name of the game. The most abusive phone calls, they even confronted my children offering to take them in because we know your mother is not good. Of course my kids came straight to me and reported this crazy behavior. It took till I was 60 to cut all ties with these people. My kids cut ties with them long before I did.
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For the struggling faders and control freaks
by dubstepped ini see people struggling with maintaining control over their reactions to their witness relatives and something struck me that i'd like to share.
as a jw you're taught that you should have unlimited self-control.
article after article, talk after talk, about controlling your impure thoughts, feelings, music, movies, speech, actions, literally everything a human could struggle with.
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Dubstepped,
Excellent post, never a JW but this is soooo very true. It took the "Elder", the County Sheriff and Social Services to convince me that I could not continue carrying for my ALZ mother. She was extremely violent and as the Sheriff said we are watching your house for your safety one of these calls unfortunately is going to be to take you to the hospital when she seriously hurts you, she has no clue what she is doing.
The really bad part was at the time I had three people in my life that was extremely toxic, I finally wised up and walked away from 2 of them and threatened the 3rd that he would be homeless if he did not straighten up.
I am a much happier person today and when someone starts their crap I either hang up the phone or walk away. They now know it is over I am not going to be walked all over, end of game. Sad part is it took 60 years to get to this point.
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How many of you are health nuts?
by Harvard Illiterate 411 inthere was/is a sister in my old hall who was a pharmaceutical sales rep and she was a huge proponent of anything in the drug industry.
when someone had a headache, she was the first to say "take an asprin.
" now my husband and i are what you might call old hippies.
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I am totally with you on the natural foods and now all my doctors have resorted to finding any natural remedies possible before writing a prescription. They are simply done with all the allergic reactions and drug sensitivity. I am in my mid 60'S and all my numbers are right on, normally workout on a daily basis, eat extremely healthy and the only medication which I take is a very high dose of a migraine preventative that is unavoidable. -
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what buzz word from the jw's do you hate & why?
by Sabin inso my hubby has been on a bit of a roll about the jdubs, we were talking a lot about them & he said the buzz word he hate's the most is "worldly" why?
because he say's "with that one word they have condemned (according to their believes) a person as being worthy of nothing but death.
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Here are two more the "Elder" used that drove me nuts:
Satin - I finally told him in the last email do not mention him again because I swear you worship Satin rather than Jehovah.
We will see - he used this phrase everytime he needed to say NO, the man could not say the word no.
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what buzz word from the jw's do you hate & why?
by Sabin inso my hubby has been on a bit of a roll about the jdubs, we were talking a lot about them & he said the buzz word he hate's the most is "worldly" why?
because he say's "with that one word they have condemned (according to their believes) a person as being worthy of nothing but death.
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rebelfighter
Never a JW but I will add my .02 cents. The JWS call apostates mentally diseased and the apostates call those still stuck in the cult mentally diseased (partly correct). IMHO after watching the ARC those who are mentally diseased are the Elders and straight up the chain of command, to be able to treat another human being in this manner is just not right, to take an oath to tell the truth and out right lie. My mother has full blown Alz she does not say I do not remember as much as those Elders said I do not remember.
As a wordly person my vote is for two phrases:
Wordly people
Mentally diseased (elders on up till they wake up and exit the cult)
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Your favorite "bumper stickers"
by new boy ini have two.
"please god protect me from your people".
"if you love something let go.......if it doesn't come back, hunt in down and kill it" .
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Do you still believe in God?
by FormerlySandL ini never thought i would admit it, but i don't.
i might superstitiously have some kind of doubt but digging a bit deeper in my heart i really don't believe in god.
as a human i could never just sit and watch people be tortured, live years of abuse, suffer from illness and disabilities and all the other awful things people have to endure day after day without doing something about it.
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I have 2 questions for you to think about, I am not looking for answers:
If God had created Religion how many would there honestly be?
Who wrote the Bible and how do you really know that it is the word of God? Do you really think a loving and caring God would want all the hate and fighting that is in the Old Testament?
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Do you still believe in God?
by FormerlySandL ini never thought i would admit it, but i don't.
i might superstitiously have some kind of doubt but digging a bit deeper in my heart i really don't believe in god.
as a human i could never just sit and watch people be tortured, live years of abuse, suffer from illness and disabilities and all the other awful things people have to endure day after day without doing something about it.
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Good morning FormlySandL,
I was never a JW, only introduced to the religion by the"Elder". I gave up on religion totally 16 years ago as they are all man made. I believe in God and I am very spiritual. About 40 years ago I asked a very similar question to your OP when I lost my first son. The best advise I received was a book, When Bad Things Happen To Good People by Harold Kushner.
It has helped me over the years to remember that God is not responsible for what goes on in our lives but is there to walk with us through our good times and lean on through our struggles.
I also have hanging on the wall in my bedroom a poem which I read every morning and night. It has been made into a song by an American country singer.
Footprints in the Sand
BTW, welcome to the forum and good luck to the rest of your life cult free I am sure it will be wonderful. This forum helped me a lot when the "elder" said good bye have a nice life after 5 years. With no warning, nothing just a bloody email.